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Tuesday, March 09, 2010

Passage of health care overhaul unlikely: Jordan
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By LOU WILIN

STAFF WRITER

U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan on Monday said people keep asking him if the Democrats will pass a health care overhaul in the coming weeks.

Jordan, in a visit to The Courier, said he tells them he doubts it.

“I say, if I'm a betting guy, I keep betting with the American people. They've stopped it for one year,” said Jordan, R-Urbana. “They're batting a thousand. I think they're going to keep that.”

President Obama and congressional Democrats had planned to pass their health care plans by last September.

But they ran into trouble last summer when voters lambasted them at public meetings held by U.S. representatives and senators, Jordan said.

So then Obama and congressional Democrats postponed their goal until October, Jordan said. Then they postponed it to just before Thanksgiving. Then they delayed passage until before Christmas, then before the State of the Union address, and now their goal is passage before Easter, he said.

“What part of 'no' don't they understand? They've been trying this health care for a year now,” Jordan said. “Think about it, the way the American people can communicate to their government, their leaders ... you cannot communicate any stronger than they have that they don't like this bill.”

Still, Obama and congressional Democrats have not learned their lesson, Jordan said.

“The president's up today ... somewhere in Pennsylvania today giving a speech on, trying for it again,” Jordan said.

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John F. Kostyo wrote:
Do Nothing Jim Jordan
“ It is not surprising that do nothing Jim Jordan suggests that the best thing to do is nothing. With respectful deference to the concept of reporting it appears that all that was done here is to fully accept Jordans summary of half truths and mis-statements. Why not simply let Jim Jordan to write the article - as appears was done.

On September 17, 2009, the American Journal of Public Health reported that nearly 45,000 annual deaths are associated with lack of health insurance. A study, conducted at Harvard Medical School and Cambridge Health Alliance found that uninsured, working-age Americans have a 40 percent higher risk of death than their privately insured counterparts, up from a 25 percent excess death rate found in 1993.

The United States now ranks 31st in life expectancy according to the latest World Health Organization figures. This puts us equal with Kuwait and Chile. The United States is 37th in infant mortality and 34th in maternal mortality. A child in the United States is 2 1/2 times as likely to die by age 5 as in Singapore or Sweden. An American woman is 11 times as likely to die in childbirth as a woman in Ireland.
If the American people are to address health care, we should address the issue as a care for health. In this, each person must become their own primary health care provider. When we must care for our own health even with insurance, we reduce illness, engage in preventive and less costly long term care. When we reduce illness in children by preventive medical programs and place health care in generational economic terms, we save billions if not trillions.
The cost of programs that care for health is far less than caring for illness. It is possible this is not within the scope of insurance company economic interests or political campaign contributions. There are many ways to save on the costs of health care, each requires health care reform that provides care for health.

One must ask if there is any group whose health care costs have declined, who have had their scope of coverage increased, co-pays reduced or who have never had claim(s) denied. How many hours has Jim Jordan spent on the telephone or writing letters because the payment for some procedure was denied. I have, and believe that my family has fairly good health care coverage.

I can state from the experience of represented individuals and families forced to file bankruptcy due to health care expenses that we need to reform our systems. Perhaps if Jim Jordan spent time in bankruptcy creditor meetings, he would learn firsthand how the cost of health care impacts middle class American families. Perhaps if he ever actually represented doctors against a med-mal claim or an individual who suffered from medical negligence he may better understand.

These are lessons that Jim Jordan will not learn as our elected do nothing.
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Barry wrote:
Put Up or Shutup
“ If the Republicans had a plan we would have seen it but they DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, they NEVER WILL!!! It's all about politics, nothing more. Its not about caring for Americans its about keeping a cozy government job, retirement, health care which NONE OF US are previledged to have. Why should they care about us, it does not affect them because they are insulated. Till it's their kids/family starving, dieing of cancer, losing benefits, going banckrupt they could care less. Its time to take the bull by the horns and get rid of the Tea-Gaggers who want nothing but to keep our expensive and lowsy health care system the way it is because they are the Palin/Beck sheep who just eat the conservative political grass and BAHHHH encouragement to FOX disinformation news for the programming they praise. ”
Barry wrote:
closed mines like sheep
“ Clearly Mr. Whitacre does not see the big picture. Obama inherited a MASSIVE debt, two worhtless wars and a WRECKED economy. If we followed the Neo-Con Republicrat vision, lets let the economy crash and create another Great Depression just to prove a political point. Thats the truth of the matter. It was fine when the Republican's were spending uncontrollably because it was what the Republicans wanted to do. Well I hate to tell ya Bill they failed MISERABLY in their attempts to govern, just like they always have. Its all about spending, giving huge taxbreaks to the wealthy, and support deregulation for banks and wall street. Now that a Democrat is in office NOTHING is right!!! The Dem's & Obama have held out an oilve branch to make this a truly non-partisan. They even used several Republican suggestions and still its not good enough. Honestly it will NEVER be good enough and we as well as Obama have finally realised it. The Republicans want nothing but to make this a political game and NEVER address the real issues of lowsy U.S. health care. If you cannot see the wrong in a pay for health system then your not human. ”
Summerteeth wrote:
Healthcare Reform
“ The healthcare system in this country is broken and urgently in need of repair. The system is more expensive (about 16% of national GDP) than any system in any other industrialized nation and yet it provides adequate coverage for a far smaller percentage of the population than in any of these other nations. That is the very definition of "Broken." The cynical, "do-nothing" attitude of Mr. Jordan and his ilk is unacceptable and is of little service to the people of this nation. I wish Mr. would "wrestle" with this issue for a change.

The healthcare plan currently being considered by President Obama and congress is certainly not perfect, but it is at least a step in the right direction. And this step is urgently needed. The CBO has estimated that this plan is deficit-neutral, meaning it will NOT add to the national debt. In fact, they estimate that the plan will acutually slightly reduce the national debt over a number of years and will begin to reduce healthcare costs in this country. Even with this plan in place, more work will be needed down the road. This will be a long process and this can be the first step.
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Bill Whitacre wrote:
Tim from BG
“ We cannot afford either war.

We cannot afford the proposed version of healthcare "reform." Frankly, we cannot afford any version of healthcare reform that has been proposed thus far.

It does not take rocket science to figure out that the US Government is insolvent and that government leaders in Washington choose to ignore that fact.

In many ways, President Bush was a big spender. In many more ways, President Obama is an astronomical spender whose only rationale for spending has rooted in blame of predecessors.

The problem with your baited question is you cannot justify the need to pass healthcare "reform" by comparing the pending legislation to the decisions made on an unrelated topic by a previous administration.

The only parallel between the previous administration and the present administration is neither has taken seriously the FACT that the country is out of money and has been for a very, very long time.

The federal government has not been effective at operating any program from the original income tax, to medicare, to social security. Everything the government has touched has eventually needed to be "subsidized." The trouble with this, is the subsidy always comes from the wallets of the American taxpayers.

We cannot afford it, sir.

(And for future reference, it would behoove a self-professed future educator to have a little more respect for all Presidents, past and present. It only makes one appear as juvenile to refer to a President as "dumbo Bush.")
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Kyle wrote:
Walt
“ Why don't they include themselves in what? The public option isn't even included anymore. ”
Get a new excuse wrote:
Great argument.
“ The government should take over our healthcare because...wait for it...it's Bush's fault. Yawn. Get a new line. ”
Tim from Bowling Green wrote:
QUESTION FOR WALT CRUM
“ Mr. Crum: I understand your position that we cannot afford a health care plan (the U.S.). However, we were able to afford an illegal, immoral, and unconstitutional war in Iraq which dumbo Bush started. How would you explain this rationale? ”
Walt Crum wrote:
Health Care Bill
“ I do not want it passed as the Country can not afford it. If it is so good why do they not include themselves in it. Wayne Crum ”
Wm Cowgill wrote:
Obama and Health care
“ The USPS, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and Amtrax is run by the government, all is broke, now the President wants to break health care? As he goes from place to place trying to spell "TEAM" with an "I" the American People need to speak out whether for his agenda of government control or a policy "of the People". It's our choice and we need not only to contact our local representatives but also communicate directly to the White House via phone calls, mail and e-mail.
”
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